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The Polly Cycle
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Friday, 29 July 2011
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A group for people who perfer a good broadsheet to the local rag, or simply for those who like to discuss politics from their bicycle seat...

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Friday, 29 July 2011 by Stu Hopkins

Feel free to discuss the issues that really matter, but please be respectful...

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Rather than by any shoes we should cover all footpaths with deep sand and go bare foot. an added advantage is the fitness gained from walking through sand. Cheeper to.
Last replied by Patrick O'Connell on Wednesday, 24 August 2011
Some good tips Patrick. Love the medicare idea.
Last replied by Dion Nolan on Thursday, 18 August 2011
I object! About anything you say...
Last replied by Peter Mellows on Wednesday, 17 August 2011
Politicians were caught looting the country last year during the expenses scandal and I don't remember any of them going to jail. (I could be wrong). Bankers are still looting the country through bailouts and none of them are going to jail. It seems to me that whole generations are now seeing that it's okay to take and destroy because of wants replacing needs. If this is what is happening now, then wait until those same angry and destructive forces are unleashed in a population that is about to feel the full brunt of austerity measures. What happens when people who are willing to steal an iPad start to go hungry? National Service would be an idea except I don't think the UK can afford it. The GFC never really ended in Europe, it just got a debt injection.
Last replied by Murad Talukdar on Wednesday, 17 August 2011
Last replied by Stu Hopkins on Thursday, 04 August 2011
Last replied by Toni Rodriguez on Wednesday, 03 August 2011
Last replied by Stu Hopkins on Wednesday, 03 August 2011
Anna Kanook
I see extremely large electricity bills and water coming out the tap a funny colour.
Peter MellowsPeter Mellows on Wednesday, 17 August 2011 12:40

We just replaced a couple of free-standing heaters with a wall panel, hooked up to our hot water meter (hydro heat in Tassie) a bit over 3 months ago.
The change in our bill was dramatic.
Also, even though my wife's blood seems to run a little cooler than mine, I try to knock a few degrees off the heating and put on jumpers.
Now, if only I knew how to turn off my computer...

652 days ago
 
Dion Nolan
Why is it that the media report on the so called “financial crises”?
The plumbing company I work for has contracts from both government and the private sector till the end of next year. Our maintenance division has not slowed down at all. In fact we are looking for more staff.
My wife has her own business and is not contracting but expanding. I have just had “holidays” to build an extension so she has an area for her two new staff members to work.
Look around you and open your eyes what do you see? Do you see massive job losses? Do you see people queued around the block for that last potato left on the supermarket shelves?
Don’t get me wrong there is some shite going down around the world, but if you listen to all the rubbish we are feed by the media and react to it by not spending, by not going out and having a good time, by not buying more bikes/bike parts then what the media predicts will happen.
Stay positive.
Peter MellowsPeter Mellows on Wednesday, 17 August 2011 12:34

I think, at least in Australia, the problem is the high, average personal debt.
Many people have bitten off more than they can chew (borrow/afford). It never used to be this way, and I think the banks had a lot to do with it.
I have a fairly meagre wage, supporting a family of 4, but we manage because we budget realistically and analyse our financial position regularly, making adjustments when necessary.
I see a lot of people (working in hospitality) who spend without thought of what's coming, then sacrifice everything just to pay a bill that drops in their letterbox.

I'm all for spending still - we all need to live, but be sensible about it.
I'll be buying a new roadie, but not until mid-2012 after I've saved $30-$50 every week.

652 days ago
 
Steve Warburton
Wow, I wish I could be 33...Might make the hills easier.

Happy Birthday Stu. :)
655 days ago
 
Stu Hopkins
Hello everyone at the Polly Cycle... It's my 33rd Birthday today!
Stu HopkinsStu Hopkins on Thursday, 04 August 2011 14:57

72% people must be happy with that.

Jules GallowayJules Galloway on Thursday, 04 August 2011 15:02

Happy Birthday Stu! Let me guess... you received a new pair of crocs?? ;o)

Anna KanookAnna Kanook on Wednesday, 10 August 2011 10:48

Happy (belated) Birthday Stu. I went to the beach for you and had a cookie.

658 days ago
 
Anna Kanook
Bring it on Steph, probably better that he does it here than at dinner parties right?
Stephanie F.Stephanie F. on Monday, 01 August 2011 12:16

Ha! He'll do it wherever, as long as there's someone who will argue back.

661 days ago
 
Stephanie F.
My husband might set up a profile just so he can join this group. You've been warned. ;)
662 days ago
 
Dion Nolan
I love statistics, and I love how the media use them in the political arena. Let’s take unemployment as an example, the media would say “we have 6% unemployment “and then vale it in a negative light attached with a touch of doom and a light sprinkle of gloom. When I look at it that’s 94% of employable people in this country are working. I could go on but in the end how much does “the media” effect how you view politics?
Stu HopkinsStu Hopkins on Monday, 01 August 2011 11:57

There are three types of truth... lies, damn lies and statistics

Toni RodriguezToni Rodriguez on Tuesday, 02 August 2011 19:55

It's not just the media! I, like many students, like to manipulate statistics to support my assignments..

"64% of the time, it works, everytime" - Some guy on Anchorman

;)

Brett LaingBrett Laing on Wednesday, 03 August 2011 18:51

89.5623 % of all statistics are made up on the spot and have no merit whatsoever.

664 days ago
 
Norm Douglas
Love a good chat about politics. We've got a great democracy in this country.

I always describe myself as a Socialist, with Capitalist leanings who is a liberal minded labor man, concerned about the environment.
Dion NolanDion Nolan on Saturday, 30 July 2011 11:22

Careful Norm I have learnt from experience that the fence can have splinters!:)

Stu HopkinsStu Hopkins on Monday, 01 August 2011 12:15

I'm slightly left of centre right when it comes to politics.

664 days ago
 
Patrick O'Connell
One that gets me going is that Australia has a great welfare system but unless it has changed since I was using it there was never any attempt to get the alcoholics or drug addicts to confront their problems. They are supported and given subsidised food and accommodation even short work programs that give them more money. But the down side is that they are never confronted with the issues that cause them to be in this situation in the first place. How do I know this? I was one of them and used the system to save money to be used on drugs and alcohol. I have not looked at what is happening since the 90’s but what does anyone else think.
JennyJenny on Monday, 01 August 2011 01:58

Facilition is cheaper and easier than rehab, you can lead a horse to water but you will drown it if you hold its head under! I'm sure telling a drunk to clean up the act is a useless request, helping one to do so who is "choosing" to try him or herself is a worthy endeavor.

Stu HopkinsStu Hopkins on Monday, 01 August 2011 11:54

Thanks for sharing with the group Patrick. I'm a strong believer in income management for everyone on benefits, regardless of colour or creed. We need to move away from the idea that welfare payments are a basic right. Welfare payments are a privilege, which many people around the world are denied.

Anna KanookAnna Kanook on Monday, 01 August 2011 12:22

We are extremely lucky to have welfare in this country, and very lucky to have health systems too. There are other countries who do it better and we should learn from them, but there's a lot of places a lot worse off.

You step into tricky territory when you start to take too much control though. It is very subjective as to what 'luxury' is...just look at the GST. Everyone should have a basic wage and be doing work they are good at. There are so many jobs to be done and an awful lot of volunteer workers and a huge disparity in wages between the workers and the executive.

As for drugs and alcohol...I agree the community should not have to pay for someone's addiction. But should be addressing the causes of addiction: hoplessness, education, abuse etc and be directing funds there. I'm not against work for the dole, but the welfare should then be commensurate with a wage, not scraping through at the poverty line and should be available to those who are homeless not just those with a fixed address..

Stu HopkinsStu Hopkins on Monday, 01 August 2011 12:43

I live in a community where there are no alcohol restrictions and sadly no desire to implement alcohol restrictions or income management. About 80% of the community are welfare dependant and it's like ground hog week... get paid, get drunk, get into a fight, get arrested, get paid, get drunk etc, etc.
I'm a horrible, bitter, twisted and cynical Police man, but some people are getting very rich whilst this situation remains unchanged

And the kids are the ones that suffer most.

664 days ago
 
Stu Hopkins
Hey Jayne and Bianca... thanks for joining, you're the first!
Bianca GossBianca Goss on Friday, 29 July 2011 17:51

thats alright

664 days ago